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Hi guys

Ok I was going to post this on a PUA forum but to be honest it would be like pissing in the wind. Not to mention the (PUA) Forums are full of theorists, wannabe Psychologists and "moderators" who are obviously Virgins themselves as they have no grasp on the reality of Dating, Sleeping with, let alone creating an Emotional Connection with women so strong that they have women sticking around.

About 8 months ago I wrote a post on a Forum called "Breaking News-PUA has nothing to do with success with women".

To my astonishment the Thread had over Three Thousand Views (the most views a Single Post had ever recieved on the Forum).

The forum was "locked" by a Moderator who was highly critical of my post without addressing the issues raised in my post. I asked if he could name the first names of the last 3 girls he slept with to which I was only given a "flakey" reply that dodged the question.

I then pointed out that due to the Moderators high post count AND the fact that he was posting at all hours of the Day/Night (forums state day and time postedhe didn't go to Nightclubs in the GMT timezone he was in, nor did he have a girlfriend as he was typing virtually every 2 hours (meaning he wasn't out/ nor was he on dates).

The views on the post jumped to 3500 views! However my post was then "locked" despite me not violating any forum rules.

So here's my view why PUA doesn't get guys laid, nor why so many "students" are just theorists.

There are three types of PUAs. "Structured" "Neuro Linguistic Programmers" and (the worst of the bunch if you ask me) "Naturals".

Structured are those who follow Mystery Method/Love Systems. There is a "model" within this Structured Game. In fact go onto Scribd.com and search for Magic Bullets, Venusian Arts Handbook or Revelations to view this Structure*

*Unfortunetly for most PUAs whilst they may not have a problem with "Attraction" it is when they get to "Comfort" do they **** up.

NLP. Considering that many animals reproduce without learning NLP it is amazing that many guys believe that "embedded commands" work with seducing women. Sex is all about Evolutionary Biology- it has for hundreds of thousands of years.

"Naturals". This is by far the Creepiest aspect of PUA. Guys paying $600 for a DVD set on why Guys in High School were popular with girls, they were Naturals.

However this form of teaching goes onto to doing two things

1) Stating that Natural Game is not following Mystery Method

2) Reading Zen Buddismn, Eckhart Tolle,Malcom Gladwell, David Deida. Whilst I do not have a probelm with these authors let me point out a simple fact*

*whilst I do not have a problem with these authours most guys who got laid in High School had never read a book in their life and B try stating what "Natural Game" is instead of what its not (i.e. Mystery Method without offering a solution)

In fact a "Natural PUA" is a bit like a Scientologist calling himself a Scientist.

and finally

I studied with the "best PUA in the world 2009" back in 2008 and 3 things were apparent to me.

This guy was a Good Looking Guy. 6 Foot Tall, Symetrical Face.

He has a Network of people within PR, High End (VIP) Club Promotions.

He has always had a string of girlfiends since age 14 years old and maybe lost his Virginity around this time (I'd seen proof) and he now dates a Materialistic woman he has now Married (however if you look at their body language in promotion shots they look "tense" and she looks "defensive" when he attempts to embrace her).

What annoys me is this MPUA says "I made less Money in my first week in PUA than PR" (which makes sense for the FIRST week but now he makes a lot. And considering his materialistic wife/girlfriend used my cash in hand fee to go shopping doesn't say a lot does it?)

Also he says "I was voted least likely to get a girlfriend in school when someone wrote it on the chalkboard (I saw photo evidence he had a girlfriend not long after school AND that in a (now deleted online memior) he had no trouble with girls admitting they were HIS girlfriend.

I will go further into the topics mentioned here but it just annoys me when guys on forums cannot admit they don't sleep with girls nor when they try to advise me- when the freqeuncy or high posts suggest they are **** with women themselves.

Rant over

I'm dead, but I don't really think about in terms of my identity or who I am.

I like how he dish out against this "Natural Game" stuff. I agree, it's a joke.

An illusion that will guarantee to keep you in a headpsin.

No Dreamweaver on this thread!?